The Joe and Smith Podcast: Read the Book of Mormon with us

We are ex-Mormons and we’re re-reading the Book of Mormon together, but this time we know that it’s a work of fiction. We think we’re funny. In each episode we read a new chapter from the BOM and uncover how the church’s teachings affected us in our conservative, faithful days. We believe in love and acceptance, but we process some anger along the way. Expect lightmindedness, loud laughter, evil speaking of the Lord’s anointed, and taking the name of the Lord in vain.

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Episodes

Monday Apr 03, 2023

The guys make the decision to not read the rest of Jacob chapter 5. The guys refer to a couple of episodes of the Behind the Bastards podcast that talked about El Rushbo. Jahndallyn joins the guys to respond to a clip from John Dehlin on an episode of LDS Discussions podcast. Joe refers to this pro wrestling documentary on Amazon prime. 
 
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Jacob 5 Part 1 (with Jack!)

Tuesday Mar 28, 2023

Tuesday Mar 28, 2023

The guys are excited to welcome their friend Jack as a guest this episode. Joe refers to this episode of Radio Free Mormon, and this song by The Violent Femmes. Smith refers to this Outkast song. Joe can’t stop referring to this song either. Joe refers to this wonderful SNL sketch about shirtless bible salesmen. Joe talks about this very well intentioned 13.5 minute church-sponsored bullshit video explaining Jacob 5. Smith talks about this horrible video where Sister Bednar’s husband…you can finish the sentence. Joe and Smith recommend watching the Jared Hess/Tyler Measom doc on Netflix. 
 
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Thursday Mar 09, 2023

Smith tells about how he got out of jury duty one time from not having very much faith and humanity. Smith reads an alternate ending of the BOM from a robot that could signify the end of humanity. 
 
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Thursday Mar 09, 2023

The guys confess that this recording is a “take 2” due to previous poor decision-making. Joe refers to this episode of his beloved Radio Free Mormon podcast and this episode of The Dollop Podcast. 
 
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Wednesday Feb 22, 2023

What would you do with the lost 116 pages? Joe and Smith have a very limited imagination that has to do with money and/or sex and/or alcohol. Smith asks Joe to remind him about the happiness letter, but it didn’t work. Joe tells a mission story about the worst moment of his life. Joe remembers to tell the limousine joke from last episode. 
 
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Wednesday Jan 25, 2023

The guys forgot about their idea to try to be more positive with their attitude toward the BOM. Joe says that he feels ashamed of how he used to use these two chapters with investigators when he was on his mission. The guys recommend finding the Whiskers and Wires release on band camp (and no other service, just band camp). 
 
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Tuesday Jan 03, 2023

Joe and Smith are back without a guest and maybe they’re a little too critical (or not critical enough?) of how it went on the last episode. Joe goes on (what can only be described as) a rant about skepticism vs cynicism, or maybe sincerity vs cynicism. The guys play a round of Hymnal Literal Translation to learn some crazy ish. 
 
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Tuesday Dec 20, 2022

It’s happened. This week the guys are joined by a guest, Friendjamin, who is still a card-carrying saint of the latter-days. Joe recants his negative review of the Jon Heder ep of the Petey Pants Podcast. The conversation devolves into mission masturbation and the like. Smith took an awesome picture of hot lava that can be seen here. The guys are excited about their Turtle Friend’s LDS doctrine-based Christmas t-shirt that he designed. The guys play a round of “I’ve got some bad tunes for you” which was borrowed without permission from the Threedom podcast. 
 
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The Book of Mormon is publicly available at churchofjesuschrist.org 
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Tuesday Dec 13, 2022

The guys are back and they did not land their exclusive guest this week (sad face). Smith sent Joe a picture of the cutest baby tortoises you’ve ever seen. They want you to check out their patreon page- https://patreon.com/JoeAndSmith. A bible? A bible? The more the merrier. Smith refers back to this classic Brother Jake youtube video about the different branches of the church. Smith proposes an interesting test to tell if one is a real Christian. Joe wonders about the future of the temple video. Smith predicts VR temple sessions in the future. The guys discuss some garment do’s and dont’s. Joe refers back to another classic youtube video about ‘Mormon Jesus’. Joe is about halfway through the Jon Heder ep of the Petey Pants Podcast. The guys reminisce about Pete Holmes’ ‘lesbian Val Kilmer-look alike’ bit. 
Joe refers to a  Mark Rober youtube video, and he points out that Mark reminds him of a million different guys from elder’s quorum who didn’t like him (Joe). Joe spoils an entire Black Mirror episode. The guys talk Schitt’s Creek and Keep Sweet etc. 
 
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2 Nephi 28, is it PG-13?

Tuesday Nov 22, 2022

Tuesday Nov 22, 2022

The guys are back with a new special challenge this week. They’ll get to it a few minutes in. Joe notices what he doesn’t like about dad jokes. Smith gives new meaning to the term ‘superspreader’ and makes Joe giggle. Smith refers back to the Aliki series of sketches from Portlandia. The guys try to self-edit to try to land a tbm guest next week. All sorts of aspersions are cast. Joe gives an attempt at an apologist answer for the BOM to teach principles in terms of conflict and good and bad. Eat, drink, and be merry.The guys try to reconcile the perfectionism that they absorbed growing up with other, more positive messages within the BOM. The irony is not lost on the guys that they are trying to ‘play nice’ and this chapter is pretty much a direct criticism of one of the main theses of the podcast. Does the BOM criticize the church?  Some other stuff happens. 
Russel M Nelson Divine Love  “divine love…cannot correctly be characterized as unconditional” 
 
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