1 Nephi 17

Joe remembers a time when the seminary building at his high school was vandalized. He also remembers that his seminary teachers loved responding to criticisms of the BOM, but they wouldn’t share from where the criticisms came. Smith is rereading the JS bio from Bushman and he’s noticing the amount of apologetics within. The guys decide that the whole ‘raising the bar’ for missionaries attitude from the early 2000s was most likely just clever branding. Joe tells a story about inadvertently seeing bad words in a chat on his son’s discord. Smith tells a story about catching a coworker watching sexy moose butchering videos. Smith finds a GA with a pretty good combover. Smith remembers a YT video from Thinker of Thoughts that made him feel sad for Sister Bednar. 

Joe is reminded of a Black Mirror episode about unskippable ads. Smith is a fan of Gilligan, but not the island. This chapter uses the word suck and the guys want to get it to catch on again as a term. Smith issues himself the book of victory for Satan challenge, in which he comes up with some sort of compelling BOM fanfiction. Smith denies any HP-related LARPing activities. Smith wants to write about how the baller director showed up in the story. The guys challenge each other to find something objectively positive in this chapter, and they’re having a tough time doing it. Smith reminds the listener that according to Rusty, God’s love is not conditional (see link below). Nephi and the Lord have an awkward conversation about who is in charge, and that Nephi’s last name is probably Smith. The guys think that God maybe started loving church members after they left the church. 

Smith got an incorrect answer on a history test in high school once, it was mainly a translation error though. The guys wonder what it would be like to talk to their bishop about a foot fetish. Joe points out that the verbiage in this chapter leaves room for the argument that God does not love those who will have him as their god. Also from this chapter: if you think about a sin, you’ve committed that sin in your heart. Joe gets triggered from being called past feeling when he was asking too many questions. In this chapter JS plays up the wicked getting punished by God which set quite a precedent psychologically for a young Joe and Smith. 

 

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The Book of Mormon is publicly available at churchofjesuschrist.org

 

Charles Andre Didier https://www.mormonwiki.com/Charles_A._Didier 

 

Joseph Smith ROUGH STONE ROLLING By Richard Lyman Bushman https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/22031/joseph-smith-by-richard-lyman-bushman/

 

Sister Bednar - Staying Humble https://youtu.be/WJtDU1-W2N0

 

Wikipedia page for Black Mirror episode Fifteen Million Merits- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits 

 

Russel M Nelson Divine Love  “divine love…cannot correctly be characterized as unconditional” https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2003/02/divine-love?lang=eng&adobe_mc_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.churchofjesuschrist.org%2Fstudy%2Fensign%2F2003%2F02%2Fdivine-love%3Flang%3Deng&adobe_mc_sdid=SDID%3D5398AB9BA629B12E-5790299054E90DEA%7CMCORGID%3D66C5485451E56AAE0A490D45%2540AdobeOrg%7CTS%3D1652217199

 

Costco Bountiful Warehouse  https://www.costco.com/warehouse-locations/bountiful-w-bountiful-ut-735.html 

 

Snakes On a Plane- Samuel L. Jackson https://youtu.be/vLaX8UvVUQw 

 

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